The way I seen the Bashir interview, Wacko Jacko pur his own foot in his own mouth, I don't feel sorry for MJ, was he that niave that he figured everyone was his friend? MJ needs a reality check.
Will
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The verdict is in! Michael Jackson is . . . . . . . . NOT GUILTY!
by nicolaou inthe full list of charges faced by michael jackson at his child abuse trial.
count 1: conspiracy to commit child abduction, false imprisonment and extortion between 1 february and 31 march 2003. not guilty.
count 2: lewd act upon a child between 20 february and 12 march 2003. not guilty.
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Drama at DC in KC
by stillajwexelder in.
well basically it was aimed at youths and was all about timothy and the apostle paul.
it was rammed down everybodys throat --no college- get pionerring just like timothy
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I was there sunday and watched the drama.(left right after).The brother who gave the talk just before the drama and basically explaining it works for a very large mining company who will be around for a very long time.He will also be getting a very good pension long before he is 60 years old.And here he is telling the 18-20 year old crowd not to do like him but to go pionneer and how happy they'll be!!!! I thought what a crock and what hypocrisy.
I recall some of the elders at the conventions that gave those talks. A lot of them had well paying executive type jobs, drove nice cars and lived in big beautiful houses telling us young ones to not worry about material things but to go pioneering. They expected others to live on a minimum wage that they themselves wouldn't do.
Will
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The verdict is in! Michael Jackson is . . . . . . . . NOT GUILTY!
by nicolaou inthe full list of charges faced by michael jackson at his child abuse trial.
count 1: conspiracy to commit child abduction, false imprisonment and extortion between 1 february and 31 march 2003. not guilty.
count 2: lewd act upon a child between 20 february and 12 march 2003. not guilty.
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trevor,
No I was not making a personal statement and I was not attacking anyone but only making a generalized statement. My point was that anyone with money can buy what ever they want.
Will
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The verdict is in! Michael Jackson is . . . . . . . . NOT GUILTY!
by nicolaou inthe full list of charges faced by michael jackson at his child abuse trial.
count 1: conspiracy to commit child abduction, false imprisonment and extortion between 1 february and 31 march 2003. not guilty.
count 2: lewd act upon a child between 20 february and 12 march 2003. not guilty.
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Reading the comments from the juors it was obvious that in the minds of some of the jurors MJ was guilty of prior incidents but that the state did not prove molestation in this one particular case. I still stand by my gut feeling that not everyone is lying and MJ is guilty. I understand MJ said no more sleep overs. With MJ money I am sure this will not stop him. It is very easy for a pervert to fly to a place like Thailand, buy what ever they want with no strings attached and hard for athorities to catch them.
Will
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The verdict is in! Michael Jackson is . . . . . . . . NOT GUILTY!
by nicolaou inthe full list of charges faced by michael jackson at his child abuse trial.
count 1: conspiracy to commit child abduction, false imprisonment and extortion between 1 february and 31 march 2003. not guilty.
count 2: lewd act upon a child between 20 february and 12 march 2003. not guilty.
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William Penwell
No one here was talking about suing anyone as this was a criminal matter. It may still come to a lawsuit as you recall that happened in the OJ Simpson case. Even though he was found not guilty criminally he was still found liable for their deaths in a civil suite.
Will
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The verdict is in! Michael Jackson is . . . . . . . . NOT GUILTY!
by nicolaou inthe full list of charges faced by michael jackson at his child abuse trial.
count 1: conspiracy to commit child abduction, false imprisonment and extortion between 1 february and 31 march 2003. not guilty.
count 2: lewd act upon a child between 20 february and 12 march 2003. not guilty.
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Kennison,
There is no question that the mother was not very reliable witness and weirdo to. Her and MJ deserved each other and MJ deserves all the bad publicity for his bad decisions. I still go back to MJ own words about not thinking there was anything wrong with allowing 13 year olds to sleep with him. He was opening himself up to liable actions. It will be interesting to see that even though he has been found not guilty criminally, he may still be found liable if the boys parents want to pursue it.
Will
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Drama at DC in KC
by stillajwexelder in.
well basically it was aimed at youths and was all about timothy and the apostle paul.
it was rammed down everybodys throat --no college- get pionerring just like timothy
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No the ydid not say NO COLLEGE - bu the drama was all about Timothy not going to Athens for a college education but instead doing full-time ministry. He did this and got praise from Lois and Eunice and the apsotle Paul. So the messsage was strongly No College even though they did not actually say no college
Typical Jdub double speak. This way they can say that the society never said we shouldn't get a collage education but it is obvious what the message they want the rank and file dub to get. They told me the same thing 30 years ago and I put off my education because the end was so near and an education was not need. I am now at a point where it won't be too many more years and I will be retired. My life hasn't been a waste as I took part time studies and have a decent job but no thanks to the WT. It may not be the job of my dreams but I enjoy what I do and it pays well.
Will
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The verdict is in! Michael Jackson is . . . . . . . . NOT GUILTY!
by nicolaou inthe full list of charges faced by michael jackson at his child abuse trial.
count 1: conspiracy to commit child abduction, false imprisonment and extortion between 1 february and 31 march 2003. not guilty.
count 2: lewd act upon a child between 20 february and 12 march 2003. not guilty.
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If it wasn't for MJ high paid lawyers, he would have been hung out to dry. If the average person were to use the MJ defence from MJ own words "that it is only natural to sleep together", they would be found guilty with no questions. Technically you are right, there is nothing wrong with just sleeping with a minor child but in this day and age with all the freaks out there it is not acceptable behaviour.
I also agree with you that the children's parents should be held accountable for allowing their child to sleep in MJ room but you are opening up another can worms. By saying they endangered their child is admitting that there was a lot more going on there than just innocent sleep overs.
Will
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The verdict is in! Michael Jackson is . . . . . . . . NOT GUILTY!
by nicolaou inthe full list of charges faced by michael jackson at his child abuse trial.
count 1: conspiracy to commit child abduction, false imprisonment and extortion between 1 february and 31 march 2003. not guilty.
count 2: lewd act upon a child between 20 february and 12 march 2003. not guilty.
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The little freak was not guilty, no surprise. The consensus from the different commentators was that the prosecution didn't prove their case. I am just afraid of the precedence that has been set with this decision. From now on it is OK for an adult to let minor children sleep with them because MJ did it. Also all those people that stood out the court house holding up signs made me sick. I wonder how many of them would let their kids sleep with MJ?
I guess CNN/FOX news will be forced to report on some real news....
Will
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Presiding Overseer Says They Will Ask If You Still Want To Be A Jehovah's W
by minimus inthe local needs talk on thursday discussed a few different things, according to my mom.
but the one that stood out most was that he announced that based on the new book, the elders will be checking on those that have not been associating with the congregation for some time.
they will ask, "do you still want to be a jehovah's witness?
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I think any response other than I have no comment and you will be DF/DA. I like the response, "I have no comment because it is between me and Jehovah." This must be some legal strategy concocted by JR Brown (noser) in response to all the faders. The borg wants to control all information flow and with too many faders and the internet they are not able to control the information like the good old days before the internet. I feel this will be their undoing. Sure they will keep all the hard line jdubs in check but there are a lot of fringe dubs that this policy will push them the other way.
Glad to know Jehobah is such a loving God....
Will